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Family of Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER and Margaret 'Minetta' MCKAY

Husband: Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER (1876-1949)
Wife: Margaret 'Minetta' MCKAY (1875-1948)
Children: Thomas PALMER (1896-1896)
Thomas Ernest PALMER (1897- )
Julia Margaret (Marie) PALMER (1899-1930)
Matthew C PALMER (1901- )
William (Billy) PALMER (1903- )
Robert 'Barney' PALMER (1905-2007)
Status: Separated
Marriage 15 Mar 1896 Holy Trinity Parish Church
Barking Road, Essex

Husband: Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER


Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER, 1899, age 23, Pedlar Palmer USA2

Name: Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER
Sex: Male
Father: Robert Thomas PALMER (1847-1903)
Mother: Elizabeth MAYERS (1846-1890)
Birth 25 Sep 1876 Canning Town, West Ham, Essex
5 Forty Acre Lane Plaistow
Death 13 Feb 1949 (age 72) Brighton
General Hospital
Burial Bear Road Cem. Brighton
Occupation Pugilist/Boxer

Wife: Margaret 'Minetta' MCKAY


Margaret 'Minetta' MCKAY, Margaret McKay

Name: Margaret 'Minetta' MCKAY
Sex: Female
Father: Peter Edwin MCKAY (1833- )
Mother: Julia Annette CARRONE (1833- )
Birth 4 May 1875 St George-in-the East London
Death Jan 1948 (age 72) St Joseph's Hospice, Hackney London
Occupation Blouse machinist
Burial Tower Hamlets Cemetery, Bow

Child 1: Thomas PALMER

Name: Thomas PALMER
Sex: Male
Birth 11 Nov 1896
Death 12 Nov 1896 (age 0)

Child 2: Thomas Ernest PALMER

Name: Thomas Ernest PALMER
Sex: Male
Birth 18 Nov 1897 Canning Town London
213 Barking Road

Child 3: Julia Margaret (Marie) PALMER

Name: Julia Margaret (Marie) PALMER
Sex: Female
Birth 1899 Jun Qtr Mile End Old Town London
Death 20 May 1930 (age 31) Stepney, London
Cause: Cancer

Child 4: Matthew C PALMER

Name: Matthew C PALMER
Sex: Male
Spouse: Mary KELLY ( - )
Birth 1901 Mile End, London
Lincoln Street, Bow
Acording to 1911 census
Occupation Boxer

Child 5: William (Billy) PALMER


William (Billy) PALMER

Name: William (Billy) PALMER
Sex: Male
Spouse: ANO ( - )
Birth 1903 Mile End London

Child 6: Robert 'Barney' PALMER

Name: Robert 'Barney' PALMER
Sex: Male
Birth Jun 1905 Mile End London
Death 2007 (age 101-102) London

Note on Marriage

1901 census family living at 59 Lincoln Street (now Brokesley Street), London.

Note on Husband: Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER - shared note

Some records incorrectly show birth date as 19th November 1876. World Batamweight Boxing Champion 1895 to 1899. Known as 'The Box of Tricks'.

On 8th Nov 1893 'Pedlar' Palmer had a 3 round Benefit exhibition fight with William Pike at the Custom Kouse Victoria B.C.Freemasons Road in aid of his father Robert Palmer.

He owed a Tobacco shop in 213 Barking Road, Plaistow run by his brother Matthew. In 1906 after leaving his first wife he lived with Rebecca Hall. Spent 1 month in prison at Xmas 1906 for assault. Address given as 33 Shandy Street Mile End. He killed Robert Choat on a train returning from Epsom races on 22 April 1907. Choat died from a fatal blow to a neck artery following a argument with Palmer. After 3 months in custody Palmer was found guilty of Manslaughter at Guildford Assises on 15th July 1907 and given five years penal servitude. Released from Portland Prison on 29th April 1911 on licence. Father of Robert Thomas born 1914 and claimed to be father of Timothy born 1907.

Note on Wife: Margaret 'Minetta' MCKAY - shared note

1881 census living with family at 13 Kensington Terrace, Sanderstead Road, Croydon. 1891 with mother and nephnew William at 62/63 Labourers Dwellings, Elias David Place, Croydon. Address at marriage 93 Whitwall Road Barking. July 1906 gained Separation Order from Thomas PALMER at Old Street Magistate. 1911 census shown living at 53 Tait Street, St George in the East, London with all children except Matthew. This at the time husband was in prison from 1907 until 1911. Also shown Lodging is John O.Brien (shown as Bryan) age 30 with description as 'Head' scrawled through. Father of Bridget and John Palmer and four other children, the last born in 1916.

Margaret ran a Fish stall in Watney Street Market.

Note on Child 4: Matthew C PALMER

1911 census liviing with Grand parents Peter and Julia McKay at 18 Priory Road, Croydon.