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Family of Robert Thomas PALMER and Elizabeth MAYERS

Husband: Robert Thomas PALMER (1847-1903)
Wife: Elizabeth MAYERS (1846-1890)
Children: Mary PALMER (1873- )
Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER (1876-1949)
Matthew (Matt) PALMER (1879-1914)
Marriage 19 Mar 1878 Canning Town, London
St Lukes Parish Church.

Husband: Robert Thomas PALMER

Name: Robert Thomas PALMER
Sex: Male
Father: John PALMER (1796- )
Mother: Ellen KELLY (1815- )
Birth 1847 Edmonton, Middlesex
Occupation Dock Labourer
Death 13 Dec 1903 (age 55-56) Leytonstone, Essex
Cause: Enteric Fever
Address: Whipps Cross Hospital
Burial 18 Dec 1903 West Ham Cemetery
Forest Gate, London

Wife: Elizabeth MAYERS

Name: Elizabeth MAYERS
Sex: Female
Father: -
Mother: -
Birth 1846 Plaistow, London
Death 6 Mar 1890 (age 43-44) Rendel Road.

Child 1: Mary PALMER

Name: Mary PALMER
Sex: Female
Spouse: Henry Thomas (Joe) COURTNEY (PALMER) (1870-1967)
Birth 3 Nov 1873 Canning Town, London

Child 2: Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER

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Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER, 1899, age 23, Pedlar Palmer USA2

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Spouse: Margaret 'Minetta' MCKAY, Margaret McKay

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Spouse: Rebecca HALL, 1945, age 69, Nan

Name: Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER
Sex: Male
Spouse 1: Margaret 'Minetta' MCKAY (1875-1948)
Spouse 2: Rebecca HALL (1876-1955)
Birth 25 Sep 1876 Canning Towm, West Ham, Essex
5 Forty Acre Lane Plaistow
Death 13 Feb 1949 (age 72) Brighton
General Hospital
Burial Bear Road Cem. Brighton
Occupation Pugilist/Boxer

Child 3: Matthew (Matt) PALMER

Name: Matthew (Matt) PALMER
Sex: Male
Birth 1 May 1879 Canning Town, London
Death 21 Sep 1914 (age 35) London
Cause: Effects of Syphilis
Occupation Boxer/Shop keeper

Note on Husband: Robert Thomas PALMER

1871 census and 1873 living at 5 Eagle Street, Canning Town. 1875 living at 5 Forty acre Lane, Canning Town. 1879 at 5 Poplar Street. 1881 census living at 33 York Street, Canning Town. 1891 census living with sons at 5 James Street Canning Town, West Ham, London. 1901 living with daughter Mary at 64 Laleham Road, Lewisham. At Death living in Lincoln Street, Mile End, London

Note on Child 1: Mary PALMER

Stated age at marriage as 18.

Note on Child 2: Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER

Some records incorrectly show birth date as 19th November 1876. World Batamweight Boxing Champion 1895 to 1899. Known as 'The Box of Tricks'.

On 8th Nov 1893 'Pedlar' Palmer had a 3 round Benefit exhibition fight with William Pike at the Custom Kouse Victoria B.C.Freemasons Road in aid of his father Robert Palmer.

He owed a Tobacco shop in 213 Barking Road, Plaistow run by his brother Matthew. In 1906 after leaving his first wife he lived with Rebecca Hall. Spent 1 month in prison at Xmas 1906 for assault. Address given as 33 Shandy Street Mile End. He killed Robert Choat on a train returning from Epsom races on 22 April 1907. Choat died from a fatal blow to a neck artery following a argument with Palmer. After 3 months in custody Palmer was found guilty of Manslaughter at Guildford Assises on 15th July 1907 and given five years penal servitude. Released from Portland Prison on 29th April 1911 on licence. Father of Robert Thomas born 1914 and claimed to be father of Timothy born 1907.

Note on Child 3: Matthew (Matt) PALMER

Suffered from bad health and told to give up boxing. Managed his brother Thomas's Tobacco shop.